If you haven't, then you should really shut the hell up. In so doing, he also made it clear he still does not understand a major thrust of what Hurst, Beyler, and others are saying: a visual inspection of "pour patterns" is meaningless in determining whether or not arson was committed. I don't know if she had any other children than the three who died that day but it doesn't matter. On a side note to Anon 11:15, that particular bit of nonsense isn't going to cut it. Whatever shreds of credibility Beyler has left only remain because, contrary to claims of the activists, the Beyler report does not exclude arson as the cause of the blaze, nor does it identify an alternate cause. It must be said: Not everything Stacy Kuykendall has said about the Todd Willingham case is true. As a mother of 6 kids, how can murdering a baby before birth be a right? The system is corrupt. Could there be some pressure being used to make this woman change her story? Agreed, Chris. Also, my cousin in another state was murdered by her husband, and again, it was covered up by the so-called "justice system" and law enforcementanother "accidental death". She's saying he told more conflicting versions about his actions. Facebook gives people the. Welcome to Texas justice: You might beat the rap, but you won't beat the ride. Here is a woman who lost three grandchildren, then saw her son executed partly on the basis of forensic arguments that some of the most well respected names in the field have totally dismantled. And there isn't one of us who knows how we would act under the same set of circumstances. It's not like he's going to get a new trial. The people who keep the likes of Goodhair in his gig don't care whether Willingham set the fire or not. How can both points of view be held at the same time?Chris. I viewed this video again, and Mr. Cooper never said any such thing. This off topic. This is just another variation: I murdered the kids because you said you were going to leave me. It's not like she was the prosecutor in the case and is going to feel any discomfort over the idea that an innocent person was executed. If in fact that is the case. KUYKENDALL Peggy Stacey Kuykendall - A lifelong resident of Mobile, passed away Tuesday, August 7, 2007 at a local hospital. 7:00 asks, "can't we argue our points without attacking Stacy Kuykendall and calling her a liar and worse"?I've mostly tried on this blog to stick to the forensic issues, and to my knowledge I haven't called Kuykendall anything "worse" than a liar. Why didn't he? No amount of cyber bullying will make Willingham guilty . Not for reacting badly in emergencies. Prior to the release of the DNA results, most Texans would have agreed with the juries that convicted these people; but they were innocent. So I'll say it again. Here are the links so readers don't have to go on the spin by the New Yorker or Chicago Tribune.http://www.corsicanadailysun.com/archivesearch/local_story_246091758.htmlhttp://www.star-telegram.com/texas/story/1709042.htmlKeep in mind that in a newspaper story, you never know what the questions were or what the reporter left out of the response. You sure act like some one who has a lot riding on this.Why not let the chips fall where they will. So there. Now she wants to pretend she was just young, innocent and naive like her three daughters.GTFO! Can you provide a link that shows that Mr. Willingham waived this privilege? Not for admiring Satanic art. And, no, you have not been civil. Show your support I don't trust laws they make. Facebook gives people the power to. An assertion of IAC is an implicit waiver of attorney client privilege. Its a bunch of hype, in my opinion. Would you be comfortable with an indigent friend or relative being defended by Mr. Martin?If you started answering my questions, it might make a positive contribution in this discussion, something that you have largely avoided until now.Chris, Anonymous at 4:31,"When Willingham asserted IAC in his first writ of h.c., he waived privilege. So I ask, given everything Texas has riding on being right on this one, would it be so hard to believe there could be a conspiracy, worthy of a bad novel at work here? His behavior was pretty incriminating and his statements tooall this apart from the physical evidence. When you awake from a deep sleep and your home is blazing the first thing I wondered is if I were still asleep and if running from the fire is part of a nightmare. Did he receive an adequate defense? Also, one day when we were visiting our sister, 6 weeks before the murder, I saw my beloved brother look back at his soon-to-be murder with a look of such fear and terror on his face as I had never seen before on my brother's face and he was not known to be afraid of anyone.Hambone was only 28 when he was murdered2 weeks after his 28th birthday. We're not supposed to charge, convict and execute people for being the kind of human being we don't approve of. You don't care about the quality of the science unless it supports your preconceived notions. He sounds not only like the village idiot, but to do a bit of paraphrasing, The man doth protest too much, methinks. in that he is incapable of accepting that over the years the science of arson investigations has changed and that he may have been wrong.No lawyer with both honor and dignity would ever present themselves in such a manner. That is not even remotely logical . Piss people off and they will be looking for an opportunity to bring you down.We have this great saying of "Kill them all and let God sort them out".That seems to be the theme in TX. This thread was about the reliability of the grieving mother's statements and the remorseless insensitivity of Mr. Grits and the rest of you Monday Morning Quarterbacks who brand her a liar because you don't like what she says. I guess you all still don't get it. If I remember correctly, he was convicted and executed for purposely setting the fire that killed those children, not for making no attempt to save them. The victim game is getting tired folks. She was known as a caretaker to everyone . The fire marshall said "cause undeterminedstill investigating".A house can burn down in half the time you think it can. He has defended his work - which he has the right to do. "One viewer of the Anderson video said that at first he thought that Mr. Martin was the prosecutor! The family will host a memorial service on Saturday, May 13th with details to come. That is not a violation of privilege. You never forget that smell or the way the smoke looks that comes from a burning house. She said he would not have hurt the children. There you are. 5:16, that's a crock. They had the evidencethey could have sent her to the electric chair but they refused to do anything about these murders and the attempted murder. That he was a dirty dog who saved his own skin instead of his children? She kept it just in case that corrupt so-called "justice system" decided to prosecute the serial killer who murdered my brother but they never did.You CAN commit murder in Florida and get away with it. Not for being cowards who don't save their own children. We all miss him so much.Because I believe in a God, I look forward to seeing my beloved brother again someday. Correct me if I'm wrong here. The State of Texas buggered it up big time on this one and we all know it. It was pretty convincing1,000 times more convincing than Mr. Beyler's pack of lies, deliberate distortions of the truth, gross errors and other wrongdoing in this so-called "report".I also believe Ms. Kuykendall. Then I became AGAINST murderbefore birth and after birth. Stacy Kuykendall read a prepared statement to reporters outside the Travis County courthouse. "I meant to say "I see the same pattern in his case as I see in her caselack of remorse, continuously changing their stories, continuously lying and telling fantastic stories that are clearly NOT true.". Yeah, I get it so cut the crap long enough to see who agrees with you and who doesn't. But I thought you were one that refused to accept that it could have happened another way. Maybe Stacy can get with Rick Perry and they can get there lieuhmI mean story together.10/28/2009 11:22:00 PM-----------------------------------In addition to the He said she said and the overall trying to make him guilty because he was not he nicest of people and of all things listened to heavy metal .Which of course makes you guilty That really is ridiculous and makes the pro side look foolish . She was never charged in this 1st-degree murder either.Then, I was told, she went to a northern state and committed another 1st-degree murder, but, as she was in a different state, she was tried and convicted of 2nd-degree murder and sentenced to 25 years-to-life in prisonso I am told.Her name is Katy Hall, aka Jeri Kay Hall. Vance AFB. Government is the only enity that is allowed that choice. Not only confessed, but confessed during a visit which by all accounts would have been recorded by the state. had more money to spend than the prosecutor.I have no faith in the system. I will tell you that fires don't set themselves. He was of the Baptist faith and a. Or do you not get it ? He said that he yelled at her and then exited the house, leaving Amber and the twin infants inside to die. Her father's grave is beside hers. Willingham is executed. They called it an accidental death, but we know better. Look it up yourself. The stories go on and on and in the end, the only thing that matters is did he or did he not deliberately set that fire? Nothing would be better for Goodhair's campaign than for him to stick to his guns that Willingham deserved to die even if he is proven absolutely factually innocent. He retired with Jim Walter Mines #3 with 25 years of service.. The hurt and suffering did not end with this execution. Many of the victims family members said that Muhammads death doesnt change anything and it doesnt bring family members back.Muhammad died by lethal injection Tuesday night while his victims survivors watched through a one way mirrored window. Mr. Willinghams first appeal did not even raise the question of ineffective counsel, so the fact that it was not found in this instance is strictly meaningless. Anon 1:10,I would agree with you completely and as far as I am concerned your argument makes perfect sense to me. Family and friends will be received on Saturday Apr 29, 2023 from 10:00a - 12:00p in the outdoor Garden of Darst Funeral Home at 796 Russell Palmer Rd . Any "cover up" by Goodhair is like the smirking denial of a delinquent who is boasting about his guilt out of one side of his mouth and shining with pride over his offense, while issuing a token denial to the authorities to avoid punishment. Maybe it's paranoia, maybe it's really something in the water, or maybe I'm just allergic to the whole state, but I'm more comfortable vacationing in third world countries during political unrest, the odd tourist joint during catastrophic natural disasters and found New Orleans in the early days following Katrina relaxing compared to my average visit to just about anywhere in Texas. After the fire, police and fire investigators interrogated Kuykendall. Now try reading the case. I lost a lot of respect for you on this one, Grits.First, it's her 1992 trial testimony I would take with a grain of salt just lost 3 kids, still obviously fearful of the husband who beat her, staring at her in the courtroom, and as she said, at that time trying to believe he didn't do it.Rather, compare her 2004 interview with her 2009 statement. Mr. Martin went beyond trying to defend himself to attacking his client, and a reasonable person would question how effective his defense was.Attacking his client? And out of dozens of posts I wonder how I hit a nerve.I don't know what happened but I can say for sure that today there is certainly reasonable doubt. http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=search&court=US&case=/us/524/399.htmlDefending him will not make Mr Willingham guilty . We are sad to announce that on October 16, 2022, at the age of 78, Gary Lynn Kuykendall in Charleston, Arkansas passed away. Neighbors said Todd didn't try. There are just no two ways about it. and Nina Kuykendall. I will write more if I have time later.Chris. Rather like having a close and personal encounter with the Spanish Inquisition. By holding parents to that standard, you would obligate a parent to remain in a burning building until they can safely ensure their children have already escaped the building. Stacy Kuykendall Death - Dead, Obituary, Funeral, Cause Of Death, Passed Away: On February 15, 2021, InsideEko Media learned about the death of Stacy Kuykendall through social media publications made on Twitter. I see the same pattern of Willingham's lies & deception, and the TOTALITY of the evidence in Willingham's case. There is a big difference in saying "this was definitely an accidental fire" and saying that you "wouldn't make an affirmative finding of arson based on the evidence I reviewed." The most obvious one being, it's easier to believe he did it, since she blamed him at the end. For years, Stacy Kuykendall advocated for Cameron Todd Willingham, stating repeatedly that she believed he didn't deliberately start the house fire that killed their three daughters in 1991. "Disclosing a work product is a violation of attorney client privilege, and Mr. Martin did this by discussing the carpet-burning test that he repeatedly did during Anderson Cooper's interview. He was 78 years old. Steambadger,I had to standby helplessly as the life drained out of my child. I do not know how long TDCJ keeps this my guess is forever in case of any legal action. The State of Texas buggered it up big time on this one and we all know it. The reason he was immediately suspected was the mere fact that he was alive. My sister still has it. Mr. Kuykendall was born on March 20, 1944 in Oconee County to the late Elijah Lee and Nancy Lorene Moore Kuykendall. It doesn't matter that he beat his wife, it doesn't matter if he was a particularly repugnant human being, that he liked hard rock and Satanic themed posters, that his wife hated him because he lived and the children died, it doesn't matter if he didn't manage to get his children out of the house before it burned. (no offense, Scott), Anon. There is no doubt this man was evil but as long as he was alive there was someone to blame for the pain and suffering of those left behind. Willingham's ex-wife, Stacy Kuykendall, has kept a low profile throughout the debate over his execution. Anonymous Cyber Bully, why don't you go find this confession . You must have battered-wife syndrome and you've been brainwashed by a monster" and so on. Didn't someone, somewhere point out that she could have set the fire before she left the house? After graduating from high school and serving in the Navy, he worked for the government in Adak, Alaska. His statements to the Corsicana paper ridicule the work of innocence projects. He did not deserve to die the way he did. Correction: Paragraph 5: I said "Anti-death penalty do not even think for 1 second about the murder victims and their survivors because all they care about is the mad-dog killer. Those of us who comment on this case ought to respect that Ms. Kuykendall has experienced things most of us can only begin to imagine and should tread carefully. Then I became AGAINST murderbefore birth and after birth. She married that piece of garbage and had not one but three babies with him. This looks like more than one person got cuaght in a huge lie and now is very desperate to get out of it . I think that Mr. Willingham's story that his eldest daughter (Amber, IIRC) woke him up is at least as problematic for those who believe the fire was arson as for those who believe the fire was accidental. There is a difference between morals and crimes but our society today is even quicker to pass judgment. The point is she uttered an inconsistency. It is highly doubtful there was a confession I have no doubt if there was it would have been released long ago and used to fight His final appeal it was not . Jan 13, 2023 Updated Jan 13, 2023. He was never married nor did he have any kids. The only question now is how long before they grow the balls to admit it?10/29/2009 09:57:00 PM------------------------------YES THEY DID! O W Kuykendall (Kirk or Dub to his family and friends) passed away November 1, 2021. Cooper tells his audience that his interview guest is responsible for an innocent man being executed. Isaiah Marquise Kuykendall was born to Charles Jerome Coleman and Jennifer Lynn Kuykendall on June 19, 1998, at Mary Washington Hospital in Fredericksburg, Virginia. Let's leave the character assassination to the other side. And you say he is innocent?He had full review by every court in this country many, many times and they upheld his guilt every time. Each request was denied. That no one thought that it is possible that some one familiar with how TDCJ death row operates and what goes on when a person is on Deathwatch is Simply stupid, ignorant ,arrogant or all of the former Maybe they thought no one is ever released from Polunsky? Chris. Cicero Rhetorical Techniques; Richland County Land Development Manual; Bernard Flament Biographie; The Second And Third Crusades Were Announced At; Bellinger V Bellinger Declaration Of Incompatibility; Xerox Financial Services Life Insurance Company; TDCJ has not released any recording yet and it will not because there is not one . Just listen to him repeatedly refer to Willingham as "innocent" or "proven innocent" even though there is no such proof, nor has there ever been. The question still stands, did he deliberately light that fire? Admitting we were wrong is the hardest thing for most of us to do. We're not calling [Stacy] Kuykendall a liar,", statement to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, immediately after that last death-row visit. A big pool of blood on it. Stacy Kuykendall. Just because you claim to not know how you would act doesn't mean that others of us don't.You don't, unless you've been in a fire -- and I mean a real fire, not an exploding barbecue or a smoldering sofa you put out with the fire extinguisher. Meanwhile you have not produced one scintilla of evidence to say otherwise or in any way shape or form to defend your position. Does the science used at the time stand up to scrutiny? Stacy Kuykendall Willinghamgirlslivesmattered. When have you been civil to anyone? So if it was NOT an accident, then it was murderan intentionally set firemeant to kill those 3 adorable kids.Down in Florida, they have the Casey Anthony murder case where that monster of a mother murdered her 2-year-old daughter, Cayley Anthony and they are going for the death penalty and she is so obviously guilty. Is it possible that the State has laid it on the line and told her to change her story or face possible charges herself based on that conjecture? With respect to IAC I have seen no legal authority charge Mr. Martin with anything. Stacy Kuykendall Ainge. You have become the evil you claim to protect your innocents from. No one can say exactly how they will or will not act in a traumatic event or events . One viewer of the Anderson video said that at first he thought that Mr. Martin was the prosecutor! Anon. Whether he set the fire or not doesn't matter to them one itoa. I am a housefire survivor myself. Saving one's own skin rather than one's children is cowardly, but it doesn't in the least stack up to be considered depraved indifference.As I understand it, gross negligence amounting to depraved indifference requires that there is a legally bound duty of care in that scenario, one that binds even over their own safety. Mr. Willinghams first appeal did not even raise the question of ineffective counsel, so the fact that it was not found in this instance is strictly meaningless.What is meaningless is what you wrote above. You are the ultimate troll. at 10:15,A person's interests last beyond their lifetime. If there was a conversation it would be available.Through long posts here I would say there is reasonable doubt. Weatherford. It is unlikely that he set a fire and then decided to take a nap. From 7:00 -- Thanks for your thoughtful response. We would all be looked up to for burning to death trying to save our children. Maybe it's just a heightened sense of survival. If the state machine accidently-on-purpose fried a lower class male of questionable character like Willingham, then it would be a cause for celebration for them. The only question now is how long before they grow the balls to admit it? Supporting the blue is what matters. Or one might argue that she was still in the childrens bedroom when she called out to him. The dead giveaway in his case was that he did not kill the kids in the house to eliminate all possible witnesses when he knew they were there. The fire was NOT started by electricity or by gas. We're better than that. Stacy could have a million motives for lying about the confession. When people wake up they are typically disoriented for a period of time and it's no surprise they don't always act logically or reasonably.People saying they know for certainty what a person would do while never being awoken from sleep in a fire, and haven't had explained to them what exactly it is like to experience such a thing, have no business putting themselves in Willingham's shoes.Why is it not possible that the extreme conditions and chaos of the moment overwhelmed his sense of parental responsibility and he just chose to save his own ass? They hung her out to dry, then she changes her story to support their statements when the Corsicana Sun and their city manager begin waving their hearsay claims around as proof of Willingham's guilt. "we do know that the forensic evidence in this case, properly interpreted, isn't strong enough to uphold a conviction.We don't know that because the evidence hasn't been properly re-interpreted. halides1 the legal opinion you posted contradicts your assertion regarding exceptions to the privilege. Is that it? Anonymous cyber bully If a person no matter who they are makes drastically conflicting statements to the media they can most certainly expect to be questioned about it a . Her statement makes it pretty clear that she was initially trying to cover for him and to the extent that it contains a confession it is a tacit confession at best.You are responsible for recklessly stirring up the pain for this woman by pursuing the bogus innocence claims but rather than owe up to your misdeeds you decide to smear the victim. Gary Lynn Kuykendall Obituary. His suffering would have gone on and on with life in prison. stacy kuykendall obituary. That this is the tip of the ice berg is only how I feel.The name Todd Willingham has caused a lot of people to stop, question and take an interest in our brand of justice. Then the constituency would see his cover up as "political skill", but they would still expect Goodhair to maintain that the locals had the right to hang Willingham if they wanted to for any reason they wanted to.The key element here is the display of arbitrary power -- "Tuff" as they like to call it. My brother Frank has already contacted the governor of Florida a couple of times but he would not do anything about it. Stacy was unharmed as she was out Christmas shopping at the time. The ex-wife of the Texas man executed for setting fire to their home and killing their three daughters tearfully reiterated her contention Wednesday that he confessed his guilt to her. "And you wonder why I FIRMLY believe and stake my life on it and that of my beloved murdered brother James, that Cameron Todd Willingham was indeed guilty. It's nice to think we would be sane and rational. Only an ignorant person would believe that his recent statements bear any reflection to the work he did defending Willingham. Haven't we covered this subject already? We covered that, too. Therefore, your argument that he has a right to defend himself is misleading. Vinita. Patricia Walker. Nothing would make them more proud.Remember the last president? David Kuykendall, Sr., age 75, of Hueytown, Alabama, passed away March 23, 2022. But I have much more respect for the person who can step up to the plate and say "I made a mistake. Execution set him free. That is really grasping for something to make him guilty .But back to the alleged confession. Calling your intergity into question if not saying you are to blame for Ms Kuyendell's troubles . They want to believe this although there is zero evidence that Willingham was innocent. Mrs. Kuykendall was an honors graduate of Murphy High School and. Yes you can be brought to court by the estate or surviving relatives of the deceased if it harms their reputation or causes financial loss . She didn't. But this ain't it! You really don't seem like a calm person. Susan (Stafford) Kuykendall, Age 77, of Coal City, Illinois (formerly of Minooka/Channahon, Illinois), died peacefully, surrounded by her family on January 11, 2023, after a valiant battle with ALS. He is Either Dudley Crawford Sharp III or one of his JFA Neo Nazis fanatics . Dont hold your breath as long as the wig is Governor. He would get several tens of thousands more votes for making fun of Willingham's misfortune and supporting his execution even if Willingham was absolutely and unequivocally exonerated. If you have been trapped in a burning building, and you behaved calmly and courageously, then I salute you. We know this for a fact. We can't know for sure if Willingham intentionally killed his children; but we do know that the forensic evidence in this case, properly interpreted, isn't strong enough to uphold a conviction.Alan Bean. I'm not sure anyone can feel sorry for that guy. Fine. They simply believe local law enforcement and prosecutors should be the sole arbiters of life and death for people of Willingham's socio-economic status and character, and they think it is perfectly good justice to hang Willingham for who he was -- regardless of what he allegedly did. But if she's going to put herself out there and espouse positions that contradict her previous claims, including ones made under oath, IMO it's impossible to consider her statements without openly discussing that "dissonance," as you put it. Obituary Gary L. Kuykendall, of Ozark, passed away Sunday, October 16, 2022, in Charleston. Another cousin murdered in Californiathe murderer received a slap on the wristbecause he was wealthy and had connections, apparently.The coroner who did the autopsy on my murdered brother SAID it was murder, but the corrupt law enforcement and corrupt, so-called "judicial system" in Florida, deliberately and intentionally covered up his murder and others as well. This is Texas. Signup for our newsletter to get notified about our next ride. For a book deal or a movie would guilty or innocent be a more profitable ending? Any business knows you cannot stay status quo and continue to exist. That's her right.I think it would be best to concentrate on the fact that flawed science and poor defense led to an execution where reasonable doubt was not proved. The system is corrupt but nowhere is as bad as FL. white rabbit restaurant menu; israel journey from egypt to canaan map stacy kuykendall obituary. What could possibly justify that from any defense attorney?Chris. Tx has made many mistakes on death row inmates and sentencing was done in the usual way. It sounds more like you were in firefighting school at College Station. Anon. This is a great comfort and solace. "Yes, there was a time in America where if you happened to be a stupid bitch who got knocked up by a stupid piece of crap the state would put you in jail and compel you to undergo sterilization.I'm also reminded of the retelling of the old parable in Oliver Stone's movie Natural Born Killers when Mickey was told "Look, you stupid bitch, you knew I was a snake when you picked me up. He owes nothing to Willingham's ghost and he has a right to defend himself against accusations that he was ineffective. He was born on April 13, 1934 to William and Vealie Kuykendall in Gumwood Township. He said that his two year old daughter Amber woke him up from a nap and alerted him to the fire.