If the diary indeed belonged to Zolotaryov and a pen was present, itis in stark contrast to his massive chest wounds that many believe made him inoperable. Furthermore the torn tent was already made unsuitable for this option. In experiencing the same preconditions, we hoped to get a sober idea of what the group went throughbefore their last night. What is important to know is also that katabatic winds (gravity winds) are much stronger along the slope but not necessarily that strong in the forest. Snow affected by strong windis also evident in the photos of the three bodies that were buried inthe lower part of the slope. Not seldom is this a productofthe regionitself -often involvingbiblical traditions and other complex oral- and written traditions from a plethora of cultures passing by. I personally have always wondered why there were huge deliberate clumps of snow on top of the tent that wasn't in sync with the rest of the snowy landscape. Photo: Mats Borg, n the photos taken by the rescue team, clear traces of snow affected by strong wind can be seen pointing towards the tent from around the peak of Kholat Syakhl. 20) Many thanks to Vladimir and Vladislav for their great hospitality when repacking in the village of Vizhay. They never succeeded to regain the equipment, but knew exactly the direction to the tent. Before the trip we actually asked ourselves how it would be possible to spend 14 hour inside thetent we can assure the reader that we never touched any of the game boards brought along. Previous assumptions have revolved around why the bodies were found outside the only located bivouac and that the bodies' injuries arose from a fall into the ravine. My hypothesistries to explain most of the strange phenomena that surround the mystery of the Dyatlov pass - such as why the tent was cut from the inside, why they left the tent and couldnt get back, and why they fled ill-dressed - many without shoes. (22)What thenabout the four bodies found in the ravine (the collapsed bivouac)? he following outline onthe theory of theDyatlov passincident is rather pragmatic and will probably disappoint those seeking a cryptic mystery or advanced military plots. The snow was all covered with blood from open wounds as a result of digging in the snow with frozen hands. The hardest to deal with during the trip was undoubtedly skiing through pristine snow with backpacks. WebHere, we describe oceanic observations during multiple katabatic wind events during May 2017 in the Terra Nova Bay and Ross Sea polynyas. Although, in my opinion it is not really necessary. Hi again David no, dont be sorry I completely understand your point here. The position of the skies furthermore suggest that they were anchored sideways to the wind - thus only facing the wind with some millimetres. Although I'm only an armchair reader, the Dyatlov group tragedy has confused me for years. In the context of adamaged skull, it should also be mentioned that any generatedcrackmay enhancethrough repeated cycles of freezing and thawingbetween the time of recoveryand examination. However, the interpretation ofa "snow slab" being decisive for the groups demise, I consider secondary. tudying the body positions of Kolevatov, Zolotaryov and Thibeaux-Brignolle, it seems as if they were lying snugly behind each other to keep warm. The ancient city of Petra in Jordan. Andreas had his own personal questions and expectations from such an undertaking. Williwaws originate in the snow and ice fields of the coastal mountains, and they can be faster than 120 knots (140mph; 220km/h).[4]. /Richard. Of course the local and indigenous people - the Mansi - which lifestyle and history also fascinates me, hadto be put asidein order to avoid a detourfrom the main subject. Did you have additional gear stashed down at the forest line? Considering that this was the Dyatlov group'sfirst larger uphill challenge during their tour, carrying heavy backpacks alongside a possible time pressure to reach beyond the pass, the questionmight be pertinent - consideringdetails such astheir light dressing in the tent duringthelast evening. Only some vodka. Simulations without explicit longwave radiation show that the blocking influence I also wrote on HOREUR QUBEC website about DYATLOV = 5 e-mails . he next series of important events are harder to fully comprehend, but likely the experienced group purposely split apart temporarily for survival procedures in the forest. -based on our expeditionand new theory 2019. Most certainly the bivouac with the four personshad already crumbled before thischallenge- or otherwise we couldexpect the last three tohave used the essential footwear that was foundonthe others. As aflight instructor since 1986, hehas been intensively involved in meteorology since the start. Im thinking it could have been the case for these guys as well in why they cut the tent. Nu tror schweiziska forskare att de har kommit p en frklaring" (kommentar till nya teorin),29januari 2021. AvAnna-Lena Laurn. We only had to endure minus 43 degrees Celcius during the night in the pass this on the site where the Dyatlov group pitched their tent their last night. This is all well explained and appears quite convincing. (24)One may alsostressanother problematic occurrence that is seldomraised. Continental orography also constrains the Yet a good foundation for a scenario from 1994. A katabatic wind originates from radiational cooling of air atop a plateau, a mountain, glacier, or even a hill. Bedtime Stories (YouTube Channel). My opinion, in the meantime, favors meteorological reasons behind the groups death. 6) A view from the Dyatlov pass looking down over the frozen western part of the Auspiya valley. Presentingthese authors, I must add that I never understood TV documentaries, podcasts and other articles putting emphasizein cryptozoology and flying saucers as alternative explanations to the group's death. High- and low pressures yes, but not what it can cause due to orographic circumstances as so excellently explained by Gnter Wolf on this page. (26)Gnter Wolf is an accredited physicist from Germany. In fact, sometimes the ice was so thin due to the underlying movement of the water, that it was a danger to use the open river for skiing. Even our own expedition-night on February1st could have encountered an extremely dangerous situationdespitebackup preparationsand our generalexperience ofsimilar topography. Strong wind is already present. The definition of akatabatic wind is sometimes also referred to as afall wind. Grazie per le tue parole Erika. By the 5th of May, suchbedding would have vanished from its position, floatingdownstream. Full of anxiety for the involved and far from helping hands. The explanation for this lies in the fact that a criminal case should have the dates of the first and last documents filed in that very case-file. Instead -these individuals werethe last to die. 13.52. Likewise, have our excavations on the Mountain of Aaron (the tomb of Aaronin the ancient city of Petra),brought us closer to the background of why the biblical stories of Moses and his brother Aaron were in fact placedhere. Therefore I would like to make a statementto the contrary - that, if the weather would have been calm, then any appearing and suddenly disappearing footprintswould really have posed a problem. They met our anticipations greatly and provided us with tent, stove and other larger camping equipment but most of all they found our hearts through their great strength and extremely joyful humor and spirit. SR P4 stergtland (nyheterna) Allt gick vl i mytomspunna bergspasset (intervju med Andreas & Richard efter Dyatlovexpeditionen 2019)3 februari 2019, kl. To the right Andreas Liljegren is seen standing outside our tent, near the position of the 1959 campsite. Agree your Dyatlov theory, and add some common sense thoughts: fire started when shelters to rest 2 hrs, before occupation/extinguished in less than 90 min. Witha body temperature of around 30 degrees Celsius, most becomeunconscious. Discover Magazine - "The Dyatlov Pass Incident: Can Science Explain What Happened to the Hikers? The With unthought of details, we could then apply those to our personal theories. This wind theory of yours cannot be correct, as it does not account for all of the injuries, of a severe nature, to the skiiers. This must have been a real tough attempt considering stun hands and feet. Radioactiveexcesses from this devastatingeventhad a wide impact, affecting many. For the Dyatlovgroup the snow depth of their made bivouac(s) was well chosen considering the forceful conditions, but as we shall see, with another devastating effect. Nevertheless, this is not to say that the story of the Dyatlov Pass is lacking thrill and mystery. Yes, God bless. In all - this plan was probably insufficient but we hoped that any katabatic scenario or similar explosive event was kind enough not to repeat itself this particular night. Again, akatabatic wind is therefore suggested as the only cause to the abandoning of the campsite in a rush. Gnter Wolf, a German physicist have provided our hypothesis with much valuable information and calculations based on the pass. When you arrive to the pass you are really exhausted. Hufvudstadsbladet-Svensk expedition i Djatlovs fotspr exakt 60 r efter desnatten (13 oktober 2019). It is impossible to ask for something stronger . A horrible experience indeed. he second heaviest task regarded the low temperatures in general. Nevertheless, this is not to say that the story of the Dyatlov Pass is lacking thrill and mystery. I would say that this was the most important purpose of the stove. Your experience and theory makes better sense than any I have read thus far. In the case of the Dyatlov group the only survivable scenario would be to run out, conceal the tent and to wait out the ordeal elsewhere, later to regain the buried equipment. However, such solution requiredeven faster actionsif the wind somehowaccelerated and becamethreatening to the tent. They were likewise eager to experience parts of the Auspiya route and camping at the specific places of the Dyatlov group, such as the slope of Kholat Syakhl. As long as they were in constant movement, the better. Thanks. As Andreas and I are heavy drinkers (water), it was hard to get sufficient with liquid. Great work. The sleeping bags could withstand minus 40 degrees Celsius and this in combination with our emergency bags and shelter in the forest, was at least something. Katabatic winds don't lend themselves easily to video, but clips like this show what you're talking about: https://youtu.be/2H8Y5ptn9Cs. As far as how long the katabatic flow continued, I am not sure. The entire near-surface wind field over Antarctica is largely determined by the katabatic winds, particularly outside the summer season, except in coastal regions when storms may impose their own wind field. Using ERA5 reanalysis data, verified by two local weather stations, we create a timeseries Photos: Dyatlov Foundation / Richard Holmgren. To the right our own tent with its stove in action, here seen halfway into the Auspiya valley, somewhere afore the groups Jan 30 camp in 1959. Again, the uneven and scooped surface of the snow is very evident in the photo next below (no. (11)One thing that I want to mention in thiscircumstance, regards the angle of the pitched Dyatlov tent. See Bedtime Stories and the episode Return to Dead Mountain, here. -on the Swedish Television (SVT-Play). Thank you for sharing your experience with all of us. TVC (Russian Documentary -Line of Defense) - The Dyatlov Pass - beyond a mountain of lies , 27 February 2019. The only problem in this case involvedthe practice of packing down the daily clothing into the sleeping bags during the nightsin order to have warm clothes in the morning. (17)After arriving to the forest and eventually into the area of the large Siberian cedartree, the winds would have still been very strong, but the best possible shelter for waiting out the ordeal away from the slope. In archaeology, I have dealtwith several excavations where the understanding of a certain mythwasinescapable. Such approaches arenot that common infieldarchaeology but excavations in the Middle East sometimesopen such doors. Thus, the hikers were likely never worriedbyany overall sliding or tumbling snow masses from atop, as it would be illogical for them to move in the path of any such avalanche-like scenario. The problem with Dyatloc case is what we are trying to explain with what is already proven because all speculations made otherwise are not considered science , and nothing could be further from the truth ! While Doroshenko and Krivonischenko took responsibility for making a fire, the others started to dig out TWObivouacs, one which was retrieved empty in May and likely meant for Slobodin, Dyatlov and Kolmogorova (photo no. Only one of them survived since he was in constant movement and wasfortunate to be saved by two persons later on - although losing all his extremities. I have also explored another good theory and precise explanaiton from Russian man Wladimir P, that has more videos about it on his youtube channel. hat thenabout the four bodies found in the ravine (the collapsed bivouac)? But it will always be up to the viewers to decide. Thisusually gives symptoms offatigue, impaired coordination ability, confusion and hallucinations. In, This page was last edited on 25 April 2023, at 04:42. (23) I would also advocatethat the punctured chests of Zolotaryov and Dubinini werecaused by the weight of the collapsedden that is, a gradual compression together with a decompositionprocess over time. Katabatic winds are often gentle, but I did Moncrieff, (author of mystery & suspense novels) - Modern Dyatlov Pass survivors tell their story, (27 February 2019) Our approach to the Northern Urals and the Dyatlov pass had two main purposes. Richard Holmgren and Andreas Liljegren, Dyatlov Pass 2019. Witha body temperature of around 30 degrees Celsius, most becomeunconscious. Lyuda for example, like Doroshenko, had wounds in her armpit which could indicate a fall from a tree or similar, which at the same time might have fracturedher ribs - later to causecompression of her thorax. Furthermore, whether skull fractures couldoccur through this kind of probing technique, depends. This prevented warm air to circulate insideand created far too cold sleeping bags. Myths and legends have interested me since childhood - not least how these can betransformed over a longer period oftime. Vox Media - "Two theories for an unsolved Soviet mystery", (intervju med Richard Holmgren om katabatiska vind-teorin samt med Johan Gaume och Alexander M. Puzrin om snflaksteorin),5 April 2021. In the Auspiya valleythe temperature fluctuated between minus 20 and 35 degrees Celsius, with an average temperature of around minus 25 during the days and slightly belowminus 30 during the nights. Your knowledge and effort has been of great benefit foran entireworld. Photo: Dyatlov Foundation. I think that the Auspiya valley is so important for the overall understanding of the efforts leading up to the event. In a photograph from 1959, Slobodin can be seen posing with a burntjacket. You can read hiscomprehensiblepresentations on these data in the PDF-abstracts below. The character of the wind at Mawson there- The series of actionscan off course be rethought and modified, but my take despitesome perchance hastily concluded details, is that the driving"unknown compellingforce"was in fact an unforeseen and strong. The theory is based on theexperiences from our Dyatlov Pass expedition during Jan/Feb 2019 and the factual evidence of an accident that occured attheAnaris mountains in Sweden 1978. I admire your ambition and dedication, you are so incredibly awesome! Thank you. I see them succumbing to something very rapidly down in the woods off the pass. We shall soon return tothat. Our expedition of 2019 skiedthe routeand pitchedthe tent at the same locationsand time of the yearas the Dyatlov group. At least we need a well-deserved break before the next batch of theories. Photo: Richard Holmgren. 17.00. I believe that the three who tried to get back were on the misson to recover some sleeping bags or any kind of useful cover, but too late. Hypothermia means thatthebody core temperature sinks below 35 degrees Celsius. Before the trip we actually asked ourselves how it would be possible to spend 14 hour inside thetent we can assure the reader that we never touched any of the game boards brought along. I do recall there was scattered clothes outside the tent and maybe they tried to grab their clothes and they blew out of their hands? In California, strong katabatic wind events have been responsible for the explosive growth of many wildfires, including the 2018 Camp Fire and the 2020 North Complex. Their productions combine stunning illustrations with well researched and spellbinding narration. We simulate katabatic winds for different combinations of slope height and steepness. The sad irony is that the hikers didn't cut the tent for escape from an unknown threat but rather to save it from the deadly winds. Gnter Wolf explains the basis for katabatic winds in the The shelter that was only 0,8 meters in depth (c. 2.5 feet), had its top cover repeatedly blown off. Did you sleep in full clothing and boots? Yes, this would be a problem indeed, but we must be careful here. A first important indication is given by the analysis of the long records of radiosounding data available in Antarctica: katabatic winds and an unsaturated low-level The presentation is far from a scientific one as you can see and I share this with many other theories. Little did they know - and little are we still today prepared for any analogous and local occurrences. . And of course -a sincereapologyto all offended yetis still lurking around in the forests of Ural. This with dignity. Theres nothing in it but its wonderfully comfortable and deflation causes an uncomfortable jolt. This is however not a case of whats ante- or postmortem, but rather a result of wishful thinking for sinister minds. As well acknowledged, the combination of extremely cold environments and sweaty clothes, can be devastating in keeping the body warm and fit. IMO the traces and indications of the latter are stronger than the dating of the paper trail - which at least in one case have a natural explanation. If one can talk of any advantage regarding a rolling gravity wind, is that it is powerful but rather stable without gusts. In our expedition we therefore focused on investigating things that could be measured. Rossija Segodnja (RIA Novosti, Russia) - Swedish researchers report on the phenomenon that killed the Dyatlov group, (17 February 2019) We should remember though that she had Krivonischenkos trousers wrapped around her feet. It is furthermore often stated that Lyudmila had blood inher stomachand that this would suggest that she was alive when her tongue was injured - or perhaps evenremoved by any ill-meaning force. Not all downslope winds are katabatic. A hard time yes, with severe frostbites yes, but the only chance of survival. A two-dimensional (2-D) model, practical for a large number of idealized I've just created a podcast for an assignment at school based on your magnificent research and theorisation. Many of his flights were performedin the United States,Spain, Austria and France, where in the latter case, he achieved a record of 7500m altitude in a glider duringawave flight" with separate oxygen. It was there that the Dyatlov group started to experience a steady airstream - compared to a jet engine. ), we can assume that they were somewhat late in pitching their tent perhaps due to a rather exhausting climb and late morning departure, but still felt in control regardless oftheweather. Furthermore, if it perchance was blood in her stomach, it could have been a result of many other causes. In the podcast it is incorrectlystatedthat the first three to die were Slobodin, Dyatlov and Kolmogorova. "Thanks Niklas! With unthought of details, we could then apply those to our personal theories. ur sleeping bags that could endure temperatures to minus 35, delivered satisfactory. Not to do so is false science because we are only trying to explain with only what we know and to do so would make us go round and round in circles all the time . 20.00, 2021). 18). (12)What happens next on the slope could perhaps be described as a rumbling noise of a wind rapidly escalating from above (northwest). Before getting to theposition on the mountain we also wanted, likewise to the group in 1959, tryto ski throughthe Auspiya valley inpristine snow and to set up camps in the estimated positions of 1959. Thus, this lead toan uneasyfeeling whencrawling out of the sleeping bag,having to put certaincold clothes on before themorning routines. In the not too distant future your good judgement and fairplay will be emphasized . Aftonbladet (Plus) Expedition p jakt efter det legendariska mysteriets lsning / The Swedish group were probably not nearly as fit as theRussian team of nine andwedont know if some in the Dyatlovgroup got sweaty. Many people have asked us, predominantly in popular media, how the night on the pass underwent and ifwe were scared. In the event of akatabatic wind, the Dyatlov team acted skillfully by shadowing the steps above. Even if the pathologist in the Dyatlov case only mentioneda red substance, we can presumethat it in fact was blood as a result of hypothermia. In most places where the phenomenon appears, it usually does so at night when the temperature drops. INTRODUCTION. Presumably thewind was already significantbut rather stable during the late afternoon and early evening. Unable to fitinside the crowded and by snow blocked entrance, they eventually wandered out apathetic in the storm. He was in constant movement and ventured elsewhere, while the rest froze to death. hat I'm trying to say here,is not that Ias an archaeologist, believe that Noah's ark lies on top of Mt Ararat - but that we with insight in later and local cultures, yes - even those that are two to three thousand years old can understand whystories involvingSodom, Aaron and Noa were important for the human intellect and became part of the narrative. Our collaborationwill be continued. SR P1 Vetenskapsradion Historia med Tobias Svanelid - "Ny teori och rapportom mystiska Dyatlovolyckan 1959" (intervju med Richard Holmgren) 4 februari 2020. frn kl. I agree with you that many people are making presumptions without having experience of hiking in such conditions. More than any other theory on the Dyatlov pass incident,that I have taken part of, I believe the Swedish disaster can hold an answer to the now 60 year oldmystery. The second heaviest task regarded the low temperatures in general. In the end - exhausted and looking for a last solution, perhaps theytried toclimbthe cedarwith frozen limbs,trying to get a glimpse of the tent with its glowing flashlight. Im glad for your comment - although sometimes I feel that Im having a free ride on the groups misery. I agree with your findings.may God bless them lost souls. Photos: Dyatlov Foundation / Richard Holmgren. ur approach to the Northern Urals and the Dyatlov pass had two main purposes. Leaving the tent's deeply ski-anchored gableswas a good solution as it kept the canvas in place without creating too much of asail. A wound in his armpit is perhaps a revealing sign of slipping down against branches. WebThe term katabatic (sometimes spelled catabatic) comes from the Greek katabasis, meaning descending and is the name used to refer to a drainage wind where high-density air flows downhill and into a plain, plateau or body of water. Oh, thank you Gunnar for these words! The last joining persons that requestedshelter together with the other six, repeatedly tried to fix the constantly failing uppermost part of the bivouac, this from the outside - but they had to give up. This with one big exception though - the Dyatlov pass was far from any helping hands. Moncrieff, (author of mystery & suspense novels) - Modern Dyatlov Pass survivors tell their story, (27 February 2019). The weather then unexpectedly changed to the worse and an enjoyable skiing tour rapidly turned into an tormented state of survival. The strongest of these winds are usually found on drops surrounding mighty ice sheets, but can also occur over cooled mountain areas similar to the topography surrounding the Dyatlov pass. Most certainly the bivouac with the four personshad already crumbled before thischallenge- or otherwise we couldexpect the last three tohave used the essential footwear that was foundonthe others.